<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>UEFA Cup</title>
	<atom:link href="http://uefa.theoffside.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com</link>
	<description>News from the UEFA Cup European soccer tournament</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:13:22 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
			<item>
		<title>A contrarian take on France &#8211; Ireland</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/a-contrarian-take-on-france-ireland.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/a-contrarian-take-on-france-ireland.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Other]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/a-contrarian-take-on-france-ireland.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes, I just can’t help myself.  Against all of my better judgment, I read as much of the self righteous indignation that erupted after the France – Ireland World Cup playoff as I could physically stand.  I have to admit to being less than moved by the whole affair.  
From a sporting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, I just can’t help myself.  Against all of my better judgment, I read as much of the self righteous indignation that erupted after the France – Ireland World Cup playoff as I could physically stand.  I have to admit to being less than moved by the whole affair.  </p>
<p>From a sporting standpoint, I do not begrudge the Irish their disappointment.  Their efforts to overcome a vastly superior opponent were undone by a blatant infraction of the rules, and as a result, they won’t be going to the World Cup (assuming that they would have won the penalty shoot out.)  Again, they have every right to be angry, even irrationally angry.  Where I take issue with the hyperbolic outpouring around Ireland’s defeat is with the treatment of it as anything other than a partisan reaction. </p>
<p>Let’s assume for a moment that the small team eliminated thanks to an obvious handball wasn’t Ireland, but Bosnia Herzegovina, in their playoff with Portugal.  I don’t doubt that people would still be upset.  I do question whether the vitriol in the Irish and British quarters that we’re seeing directed against France, UEFA, and FIFA would be present.  I personally think that absent partisan feelings, the reaction would be more along the lines of detached disapproval.  </p>
<p>Refereeing errors that occur in high profile matches, in general, don’t really exist on a case by case basis.  I believe the reaction follows a loose set of guidelines, depending on the identity of the teams involved. </p>
<p>When Spain and Italy were expelled from the 2002 World Cup thanks to some truly appalling refereeing decisions, there was a sector of public opinion that accused the Spanish and Italians of bitter, unsportsmanlike conspiracy mongering.  Even though the officiating in those games was just as bad as the France – Ireland match, the fact that a small underdog benefited at the expense of big opposition altered perception of the incident.  </p>
<p>Similarly, there are Chelsea fans who still murmur about match fixing when discussing their failed attempts to win a penalty against Barcelona in the dying moments of last season’s Champions League semi final, even though the conventional wisdom regarding that match is that there were no clear cut penalties, and that if Chelsea had been more positive, they might have claimed victory before they were ever in that situation.</p>
<p>What we have with France – Ireland is an underperforming major power benefiting at the expense of a plucky upstart.  That plucky upstart also happens to exist in the footballing culture of a media juggernaut.  What’s giving this particular situation legs is that it fits into the time tested narrative of ‘our brave lads’ being cheated by dastardly foreign types. I would imagine that the media rush to get the first shots across the bow made newsrooms resemble a cross between <em>Battle Royale</em> and <em>28 Days Later</em>.  That the foreigners in this situation happen to be the perennially easy target France only adds to the feeding frenzy.  </p>
<p>By all means, be disappointed, be angry, but recognize that for the rest of us, this incident is going to exist purely as a historical footnote sooner rather than later.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/a-contrarian-take-on-france-ireland.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>You want to live with common people&#8230;Some Very Early Thoughts on the Champions League Drop-Ins</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/you-want-to-live-with-common-people-some-very-early-thoughts-on-the-champions-league-drop-ins.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/you-want-to-live-with-common-people-some-very-early-thoughts-on-the-champions-league-drop-ins.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Champions League]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/you-want-to-live-with-common-people-some-very-early-thoughts-on-the-champions-league-drop-ins.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
Even though many of the Champions League groups are closely contested, and won’t be decided before match day 6, I think we’re far enough along to make some wild speculations on the clubs that would join the Europa League cast.  The major problem with this endeavor is the lack of any established match ups [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://uefa.theoffside.com/files/2009/11/740px-Leslie_five_points_new_york_1885_3c22660v-300x243.jpg" alt="740px-Leslie_five_points_new_york_1885_3c22660v" width="300" height="243" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-224" /></p>
<p>Even though many of the Champions League groups are closely contested, and won’t be decided before match day 6, I think we’re far enough along to make some wild speculations on the clubs that would join the Europa League cast.  The major problem with this endeavor is the lack of any established match ups that are going to take place once the knockout stages get under way.  Because there is no draw, and that the form the discussed clubs are in could be very different in a couple of months, discussing specifics like tactics or historical results is impossible at this point. (I eagerly await to revisit this topic when we do know who will be playing whom.)  Nevertheless, when has it not been a good idea to make vague predictions enshrined in a public forum for all to see when they go horribly array?  <span id="more-223"></span></p>
<p>Group A:  In all likelihood, Bayern Munich aren’t going to overtake Juventus in second place, so they’ll be joining the Europa League cast.  Bayern have demonstrated enough schizophrenia to make their potential impact on this competition a complete mystery.  At their best, Bayern obviously have enough talent to win the whole thing; of course, we’ve seen precious little of Bayern at their best this season.  The matter of balancing domestic and European priorities will probably come into play with Bayern as well.  If they haven’t moved into serious contention in the Bundesliga by the time the knockout stages roll around, they’ll be in dire need of a trophy to placate their demanding fan base.  Based on their current form, a repeat of their 07-08 UEFA campaign, where they steamroller clubs of lesser means and struggle against serious opposition seems like a safe prediction.</p>
<p>Group B:  Wolfsburg’s trip to Moscow is going to be the decisive match in the battle for second place.  Wolfsburg and CSKA have the quality to advance to the late stages of this competition, although CSKA would be the more likely of the two to make it that far.  Eastern European teams have featured prominently in recent years, with CSKA, Zenit St. Petersburg, and Shakhtar Donetsk winning the 2005, 2008, and 2009 competitions, respectively.  Besides the obvious wealth of talent at these clubs, the April to October season means that Eastern clubs are well rested for the knockout stages.  If their previous pedigree in the tournament wasn’t convincing enough, CSKA proved against Manchester United that they are not at all out of place among the elite clubs.  I don’t think CSKA winning this tournament again would surprise many people. </p>
<p>Wolfsburg are an altogether more difficult commodity to pin down.  They also have the raw talent to advance deep into the competition.  The big worry, as we saw against Manchester United and against Paris Saint Germain in last year’s UEFA Cup, is that when up against a team with the talent to mount sustained pressure on them, Wolfsburg may, ultimately, not be sturdy enough at the back to hold out.</p>
<p>Group C:  Real Madrid dropping all those points against Milan has made a major mess of group C as well.  Out of the contenders here, I would fancy Marseille to make the most impact in the Europa League.  The scenario outlined for Bayern Munich is a common theme involving mega clubs who find themselves in the UEFA Cup/Europa League.  As Real Madrid and Milan have both been less than impressive on all fronts, I can easily see a team like Shakhtar Donetsk or Galatasaray knocking them out at the first opportunity.  </p>
<p>Group D:  Chelsea and Porto have already advanced from this group, but that doesn’t make picking the Europa drop in any easier.  Atletico Madrid would normally be expected to get their act together enough to see off APOEL.  To be honest, I would actually expect more out APOEL in the Europa League than I would from Atletico.  Atletico, like they did against Bolton two years ago, will probably fold at the first sign of adversity.  APOEL would probably be a stubborn opponent, and might even take home a famous scalp if they can find a way to score, but ultimately, neither club would have a major impact on the knockout rounds.</p>
<p>Group E:  Unless there’s yet another extensive series of credulity stretching results in Liverpool’s favor (at which point they will officially claim the moniker ‘the Devil’s Bargain’ from Mr. Dorian Gray,) the Europa League will get its very own big red club.  There are basically two roads that Liverpool’s involvement can go down.  One is a repeat of their early 90s return to European competition, in which they stroll past their smaller opposition, they could, after all, conceivably be drawn against Ventsplis or Club Brugge before being outclassed by the first biggish club they encounter.  The other possibility, which I call the nightmare scenario, would involve Liverpool repeating their infamous Champions League encounter with Standard Liege and grinding their way past a series of infinitely more attractive and sympathetic opposition all the way to the final.</p>
<p>Group F:  Inter’s late robbery of Dynamo Kiev must have left anyone who doesn’t actively support them banging their head against the nearest sturdy object.  It certainly made a mess out of the group.  If Inter end up in the Europa league, I would expect them to follow a very similar path to the Liverpool nightmare scenario that I described above.  Rubin Kazan and Dynamo Kiev would, like several other Russian and Ukrainian clubs in recent years, be capable of progressing to the final.  If Barcelona ended up in the third spot and tumbled into the Europa League, it would be a very interesting case.  They would pretty much be obligated to win a tournament that they would be mortified to be playing in.  Even if Barcelona were to sleepwalk through a Europa League campaign, they could still end up in the semi finals or final before they meet an opponent with enough resources and determination to stop them.  On the bright side for Barcelona fans should this happen: they haven’t won this competition before.</p>
<p>Group G:  This group has played out very predictably.  Sevilla are ridiculously better than everyone else, so there’s a mad scramble below them.  Stuttgart seem completely unable to put two good seasons in a row together.  I would expect them to make an early Europa League exit.  Rangers abject European performances are well known; they’re grim affairs that end up 1-0 or 2-1 on aggregate.  They’re worse than ever this season, which would hopefully mean an early exit, should they happen to sneak into third place in the group.<br />
Unirea, meanwhile, haven’t been terrible, but there’s nothing to suggest that they would make much more of a splash by dropping into the Europa League than Rangers or Stuttgart would.</p>
<p>Group H:  Standard Liege’s win over Olympiakos has made the group a bit interesting again.  Looking at the standings alone would be harsh on Standard and AZ, who by no means look outclassed, especially for clubs of their stature.  Unfortunately for the brave denizens of Benelux (well, not so much lux, but you get the point) the same defensive frailties that have plagued them in the Champions League would be a major weakness in the Europa League knockout rounds as well.  With some luck, either Standard or AZ could put a nice run together.  Given the attractive football both of these clubs play, it would be well deserved too.  </p>
<p>If Olympiakos end up slipping, they’re another club with the raw materials enough for serious progress.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/you-want-to-live-with-common-people-some-very-early-thoughts-on-the-champions-league-drop-ins.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Group Stage: Match Day 4</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-4.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-4.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tournament News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-4.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It’s match day four in the Europa League.  While we’re very much in the business end of the group stage at this point, some groups are no closer to being decided than they were on match day one.  
Here in the US, the major televised early game was, for some reason, Hamburg v. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s match day four in the Europa League.  While we’re very much in the business end of the group stage at this point, some groups are no closer to being decided than they were on match day one.  </p>
<p>Here in the US, the major televised early game was, for some reason, Hamburg v. Celtic.  The first half was fairly open and, at times, frantic.  Both clubs created several clear goal scoring opportunities that were denied by fine work from Frank Rost and Lukasz Zaluska.  In the second half, Hamburg were more careful with their possession and their superiority became more evident, as they continued creating chances, while Celtic, forced into more intense defending, had few attacking forays to speak of.  Ultimately, Hamburg couldn’t find a way to break the goalless draw.  The result means that, as the announcer incessantly reminded us, Celtic are not mathematically eliminated.  They would, of course, need a very improbable set of results to entertain the fantastical notion of advancing.  The scoreless draw is helpful, though, to Hapoel Tel Aviv.  The Israeli side soundly defeated Rapid Vienna again to move to the top of the group.  Rapid also look to be in trouble now, as they will have to shock Hamburg again and defeat a Celtic side who are presumably still revenge minded.</p>
<p>Group B was turned on its ear by today’s results.  Lille have jeopardized the excellent work they’ve done so far by losing in Genoa.  The French side fought back from a two goal deficit only to concede an injury time winner.  Valencia, meanwhile, squandered their own two goal lead in the final ten minutes against bottom dwelling, ten man Slavia Prague.  This combination of results leaves Lille in first place with seven points, with Genoa and Valencia level on six, so the final two match days should be pretty frantic in this group.  </p>
<p>Group A is one of the groups that is essentially decided already.  Dinamo Zagreb were deducted points earlier this week because of crowd disturbances during their match at Timisoara.  The deduction left Dinamo with no points and Timisoara with two.  Anderlecht and Ajax took full advantage by winning today.  Anderlecht, who missed a number of chances to leave Romania with all three points two weeks ago, dispatched Timisoara at home.  Ajax, for their part, beat Dinamo, behind closed doors, in Croatia.  This leaves Ajax and Anderlecht level on eight points, six points clear of third placed Timisoara.</p>
<p>Group F also reduced the final two match days to formalities with today’s results.  Sturm Graz suffered another battling defeat, this time at home to Panathinaikos.  Galatasaray continued to dominate the group; they won 3-0 away to Dinamo Bucharest.  </p>
<p>Roma moved into second place in group E, after downing Fulham at the Olimpico.  Fulham took an early lead through a Diomansy Kamara penalty.  Before halftime, Roma just missed out on an equalizer and Fulham just missed out on going two goals up.  The match was changed by Erik Nevland’s early second half dismissal.  John Arne Riise leveled the match and Stefano Okaka Chuka grabbed the winning goal.  Fulham actually ended up with nine men after Paul Konchesky was shown the red card in injury time.  Basel maintained their grasp on first place with a 3-1 win over whipping boys CSKA Sofia.  With the three contending clubs still to play head to head again, this group is far from being decided.</p>
<p>Stop the presses in group D; Hertha Berlin have won a game.  Again, you are not reading this incorrectly, Hertha Berlin scored three goals, while their opponents Heerenveen, managed only two.  In typical Hertha fashion though, their first win since August doesn’t do anything tangible for them, aside from the morale boost. I do have to say that Hertha displayed a resiliency that they have obviously been lacking this season.  Despite going behind very early in the game, and going behind a second time after controlling significant periods of the game, they actually came back to win.  Sporting are still coasting in this group, despite dropping their first points with a draw against Ventsplis today.  Hertha are level with Heerenveen, with Ventsplis one point behind.  The matter of coming out of the group with Sporting will probably not be decided before the final match day.  </p>
<p>The 3:00 televised US game was Villarreal v. Lazio, which after a closely contested match two weeks ago, which featured a dramatic late winner from Tommaso Rocchi, looked promising.  Since the last match day, however, Villarreal have started recovering some form, and they turned this match into a rout within fifteen minutes.  A long range, Robert Pires free kick bounced past Lazio keeper Bizaarri in the third minute.  Then, Lazio’s Roberto Baronio was dismissed almost immediately after the restart.  Villarreal extended their lead through Cani and a Robert Pires penalty.  Lazio were handed a lifeline just after the half hour when Villarreal defender Gonzalo was sent off after bringing down Rocchi in the area.  Pasquale Foggia sent the resulting penalty crashing against the crossbar, though.  Villarreal had several more chances to move even further ahead before the first half ended.  The second half was more subdued, although substitute Mauro Zarate pulled a goal back for Lazio.  The brief glimmer of hope only lasted for ten minutes; Villarreal were awarded another penalty, converted by substitute Guiseppe Rossi after Cani was chopped down.  The 4-1 victory moves Villarreal into second place in the group.  Lazio now face a daunting, must win encounter with Salzburg, in Austria, on match day five.  Salzburg, for their part, won at Levski Sofia.</p>
<p>Fenerbahce and Twente remained in the top two group H spots, although Twente left it until very late to take all three points from Sheriff.  The Moldovans are not out of contention yet, but, assuming they win against last place Steaua, they’ll probably have to avoid losing when they play Fenerbahce again.</p>
<p>Everton had revenge on their minds after their humiliation in Portugal two weeks ago, but it was not to be.  The 2-0 margin of victory was not as shocking, but Benfica are now alone at the top of group I.  AEK and BATE drew 2-2, so Everton remain in second place.  </p>
<p>Shakhtar Donetsk maintained their perfect form in group J with a 2-0 victory over Toulouse.  Club Brugge also won, 4-2, at Partizan Belgrade.  Brugge occupy second place for now.  As they face another match with runaway leaders Shakhtar, their match with Toulouse will be pivotal in deciding who will advance from the group. </p>
<p>PSV and Sparta Prague are separated by a point at the top of group K.  PSV could only draw with Copenhagen, while Sparta needed six minutes of extra time to grab a winning goal in Cluj.  No one is mathematically out of the running in this group yet.  Although with a three point gap between second and third place, PSV and Sparta Prague control their own destinies.  </p>
<p>Finally, in group L, Werder Bremen are through to the knockout stage after netting two late goals against a stubborn Austria Vienna.  Bilbao needed a late penalty to draw level with Nacional.  The draw keeps Bilbao four points above Austria Vienna.<br />
<span id="more-217"></span></p>
<p>Group A<br />
<strong>Anderlecht 3 </strong>- Timisoara 1<br />
Dinamo Zagreb 0 &#8211; <strong>Ajax 2 </strong></p>
<p>Group B<br />
Slavia Prague 2 &#8211; Valencia 2<br />
<strong>Genoa 3</strong> &#8211; Lille OSC 2 </p>
<p>Group C<br />
Hamburg SV 0 &#8211; Celtic 0<br />
Rapid Vienna 0 &#8211; <strong>Hapoel Tel Aviv 3</strong></p>
<p>Group D<br />
Sporting CP 1 &#8211; Ventsplis 1<br />
Heerenveen 2 &#8211; <strong>Hertha Berlin 3</strong>  </p>
<p>Group E<br />
<strong>AS Roma 2</strong> &#8211; Fulham 1<br />
<strong>FC Basel 3</strong> &#8211; CSKA Sofia 1 </p>
<p>Group F<br />
Dinamo Bucharest 0 &#8211; <strong>Galatasaray 3</strong><br />
Sturm Graz 0 &#8211; <strong>Panathinaikos 1</strong></p>
<p>Group G<br />
Levski Sofia 0 &#8211; <strong>Red Bull Salzburg 1 </strong><br />
<strong>Villarreal 4</strong> &#8211; SS Lazio 1 </p>
<p>Group H<br />
<strong>FC Twente 2</strong> &#8211; Sheriff 1<br />
<strong>Fenerbahce 3</strong> &#8211; Steaua Bucharest 1 </p>
<p>Group I<br />
AEK Athens 2 &#8211; BATE 2<br />
Everton 0 &#8211; <strong>Benfica 2 </strong></p>
<p>Group J<br />
Toulouse 0 &#8211; <strong>Shakhtar Donetsk 2 </strong><br />
Partizan Belgrade 2 &#8211; <strong>Club Brugge 4</strong></p>
<p>Group K<br />
FC Copenhagen 1 &#8211; PSV Eindhoven 1<br />
CFR Cluj 2 &#8211; <strong>Sparta Prague 3</strong></p>
<p>Group L<br />
Werder Bremen 2 &#8211; Austria Vienna 0<br />
CD Nacional 1 &#8211; Athletic Bilbao 1</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-4.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Group Stage: Match Day 3</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-3.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-3.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tournament News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-3.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It’s certainly been a fun week for European football; the Europa League did its part to keep things going.  So, let’s get into what happened on match day 3. 
There were a couple of notable thrashings in matches that we probably thought would have been closer affairs.  Benfica, led by Javier Saviola and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s certainly been a fun week for European football; the Europa League did its part to keep things going.  So, let’s get into what happened on match day 3. </p>
<p>There were a couple of notable thrashings in matches that we probably thought would have been closer affairs.  Benfica, led by Javier Saviola and Oscar Cardazo tore Everton apart in the second half, for a 5-0 victory.  Meanwhile, in the Ukraine, Shakhtar Donetsk showed their title winning form with a 4-0 win over Toulouse.  Shakhtar’s victory was especially helpful for group mates Club Brugge, who are now very much in the race for second, after they dispatched Partizan Belgrade.</p>
<p>Villarreal appeared to have gained a momentary respite from their season long misery, but Tommaso Rochhi’s injury time winner, which after their first match day loss against Salzburg will be more welcome to Lazio fans than usual, has almost certainly jeopardized Ernesto Valverde’s employment.  Red Bull Salzburg continued their perfect group stage form with a 1-0 win over Levski Sofia.  </p>
<p>Group H continues to be rather unpredictable.  Sheriff surprised Twente with a 2-0 win that actually put them ahead of the Dutch league leaders in second place.  Steaua Bucharest continue to underwhelm in this group.  A 1-0 loss to Fenerbahce, who now top the group, leaves Steaua bottom, with no goals scored.</p>
<p>Things in groups L and K pretty much stayed the same.  Sparta Prague’s victory over CFR Cluj moved them into second place for now.  PSV maintained the top spot with a win over Copenhagen.  </p>
<p>Roma’s match at Fulham was televised by GolTV, but the first 45 minutes might have left their fans wishing that they were spared the ‘pleasure’.  Tepid and unimaginative will suffice to describe a Roma side who were always on the back foot in the first half.  A couple of close offside decisions spared Roma further damage.  Roma started out brightly in the second half with the introduction of Pizarro and Perotta, and went on to dominate the second half.  It looked like they would not be able to find a way past Fulham, even after they were awarded a penalty for a sloppy foul against John Arne Riise.  Fulham goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer must have employed the guessing technique, as Jeremy Menez’s penalty was well struck towards the bottom left hand corner, but comfortably saved.  Roma eventually grabbed a deserved equalizer at the last possible moment from a corner.  This result, along with Basel’s win in Bulgaria, puts the Swiss club on top of the group, while Roma remains in third place.</p>
<p>Rapid Vienna’s bright start came to a screeching halt in Israel, where they were soundly beaten, 5-1, by Hapoel Tel Aviv.    Rapid must regret not holding on to their lead against a less than imposing Celtic on match day 2, as they now drop to third in the group behind Hapoel and Hamburg, who won 1-0 at Celtic Park.  </p>
<p>Hertha Berlin continued their odd campaign to introduce novel forms of suffering to the Hertha fan experience.  A single Heerenveen goal was enough for the Eredivisie strugglers to take all three points home from Berlin with them.  For their part, Sporting continue to effortlessly waltz through this group.</p>
<p>Lille continued their very impressive campaign with a 3-0 win against Genoa.  This win puts Lille in command of the group, as Valencia could only manage a draw at home against bottom club Slavia Prague.</p>
<p>Ajax, who despite playing well in the group, had not won yet, finally made their performance count; they beat Dinamo Zagreb 2-1, which puts them on top of the group, ahead of Anderlecht on goal difference.  Timisoara leave me wondering how they managed to knock Shakhtar out of the Champions League.  Like their countrymen Steaua, they have not yet scored a goal; today they were fortunate to draw 0-0 with Anderlecht.  </p>
<p>Finally, in Group F, any lingering hopes that Sturm Graz had were extinguished in a close match against Panathinaikos, while Galatasaray won comfortably against Dinamo Bucharest.  Dinamo remain in contention, but they will have some work to do to progress from this group.  They’re now a full three points behind second place Panathinaikos.<br />
<span id="more-208"></span></p>
<p>Group A<br />
Timisoara 0 &#8211; Anderlecht 0<br />
<strong>Ajax 2 </strong>- Dinamo Zagreb 1 </p>
<p>Group B<br />
Valencia 1 &#8211; Slavia Prague 1<br />
<strong>Lille OSC 3 </strong>- Genoa 0 </p>
<p>Group C<br />
Celtic 0 &#8211; <strong>Hamburg SV 1 </strong><br />
<strong>Hapoel Tel Aviv 5 </strong>- Rapid Vienna 1 </p>
<p>Group D<br />
Ventsplis 1 &#8211; <strong>Sporting CP 2</strong><br />
Hertha Berlin 0 &#8211; <strong>Heerenveen 1 </strong></p>
<p>Group E<br />
Fulham 1 &#8211; AS Roma 1<br />
CSKA Sofia 0 &#8211; <strong>FC Basel 2 </strong></p>
<p>Group F<br />
<strong>Galatasaray 4</strong> &#8211; Dinamo Bucharest 1<br />
<strong>Panathinaikos 1</strong> &#8211; Sturm Graz 0 </p>
<p>Group G<br />
<strong>Red Bull Salzburg 1</strong> &#8211; Levski Sofia 0<br />
<strong>SS Lazio 2</strong> &#8211; Villarreal 1 </p>
<p>Group H<br />
<strong>Sheriff 2</strong> &#8211; Twente 0<br />
Steaua Bucharest 0 &#8211; <strong>Fenerbahce 1 </strong></p>
<p>Group I<br />
<strong>BATE 2</strong> &#8211; AEK Athens 1<br />
<strong>Benfica 5 </strong>- Everton 0</p>
<p>Group J<br />
<strong>Shakhtar Donetsk 4</strong> &#8211; Toulouse 0<br />
<strong>Club Brugge 2</strong> &#8211; Partizan Belgrade 0</p>
<p>Group K<br />
<strong>PSV Eindhoven 1</strong> &#8211; FC Copenhagen 0<br />
<strong>Sparta Prague 2</strong> &#8211; CFR Cluj 0 </p>
<p>Group L<br />
Austria Vienna 2 &#8211; Werder Bremen 2<br />
<strong>Athletic Bilabo 2</strong> &#8211; CD Nacional 1 </p>
<p>Standings at <a href="http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/standings/index.html">uefa.com</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-3.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>I Don&#8217;t Love the 90s: The North Atlantic league is still a terrible idea.</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/i-dont-love-the-90s-the-north-atlantic-league-is-still-a-terrible-idea.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/i-dont-love-the-90s-the-north-atlantic-league-is-still-a-terrible-idea.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Other]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/i-dont-love-the-90s-the-north-atlantic-league-is-still-a-terrible-idea.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[As long as the North Atlantic league proposal is back on the table, let me just preemptively mention a few other things from the late 90s that I emphatically hope do not enjoy the same sort of revived popularity.  These things are as follows:  the phrase ‘is that your final answer,’ Limp Bizkit, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the North Atlantic league proposal is back on the table, let me just preemptively mention a few other things from the late 90s that I emphatically hope do not enjoy the same sort of revived popularity.  These things are as follows:  the phrase ‘is that your final answer,’ Limp Bizkit, the wearing of ski goggles as a necklace, Monica Lewinsky jokes, Austin Powers, and that hairstyle in which a mass of gel is used to slick the hair forward, except for a little duck tail thing at the very front. </p>
<p>But seriously, that this scaled down super league concept should be met with anything other than the derision that killed it the first time around, comes as something of a surprise to me.  What’s not surprising is that many people are desperate for a change in European competition’s status quo.  Since the clubs involved in the North Atlantic proposal are, historically, big names that the financial reorganization of the last fifteen or twenty years has been especially damaging to, people are willing to, at the very least, consider anything that would help them.  </p>
<p>Why return to an idea rife with problems and complications that have never been fixed in the first place though?<br />
<span id="more-204"></span><br />
For starters, the North Atlantic league would sacrifice the domestic competitions of all the involved clubs by removing the biggest names.  Killing off the rest of the Dutch and Belgian leagues so that PSV or Anderlecht might regularly make the Champions League quarter finals doesn’t really seem like an especially productive or moral (stop laughing) path to go down.  The decision to bet the house on the current top dogs also precludes the serious development of any new contenders.  Ten years ago, Standard Liege, Belgium’s strongest club, certainly wouldn’t have been involved in any North Atlantic discussions.  Those who are tempted to usher the big clubs towards the door (I’m thinking mostly of Scotland here) in hopes of a more competitive domestic league might also be in for a rude awakening.  As part of a super league, the big clubs, even from a distance, would be in a position to financially dominate their former domestic rivals.  The best developing players would have even more of a reason to leave as quickly as possible for greener pastures, while whoever topped the leftovers would be the champion of the dregs, which doesn’t sound like an altogether ideal situation.  </p>
<p>A more pressing issue than the moral implications of this proposal is the question of how profitable a North Atlantic league would actually be.  Based on the current status quo, even a reorganization of big names like Anderlecht, Ajax, Celtic, Porto, et al would still lack the star power that attracts casual fans from New York to Malaysia to leagues like La Liga and the Premiership.  This problem is potentially compounded by the relatively recent conversion of many football fans.  As ludicrous and depressing as it sounds, to someone who didn’t have regular media access to football coverage before a certain point in time, arriviste clubs like Chelsea are kings compared to a bunch of nobodies like Ajax.  The same problem occurs with a generation gap.  Does the average fan born in 1990 know or care much about Van Gaal’s Ajax, let alone the faded photograph, 1970s incarnation?  Personally, I feel that any potential audience for this venture would already consume any available coverage of the clubs involved.  The attraction of a new, global viewership is by no means assured.  </p>
<p>The other major problem with the proposal is the problem that has plagued every potential super league, even the theoretical one consisting of the elite clubs.  How is a match between two mid table super league teams, with nothing at stake and no tradition behind it appeal to anyone?  I think this is the billionth time I’ve made this argument, but unless the empty seats in the stadium are covered with advertisements, I don’t think anyone that benefits from or cares about a potential Rangers v. Feyenoord match for 8th place.  </p>
<p>Ultimately, resurrecting the North Atlantic league would be ceding the initiative of European restructuring to the big clubs that already dominate everything.  The message sent out is that the big clubs are never going to be reined in, and that the best we can hope for is to graft a few new names onto the periphery.  At a time when UEFA is making an attempt to increase the presence of smaller nations in European competition and reduce the direct link between bank balances and on field success, this would be an especially foolish move to make.  There might be something to be said for geographically based mergers of top divisions for the sake of raising the standard of play, but throwing the biggest names together in a cash grab isn’t the right way to do it.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/i-dont-love-the-90s-the-north-atlantic-league-is-still-a-terrible-idea.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>The Joy of Shameful Joy</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/the-joy-of-shameful-joy.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/the-joy-of-shameful-joy.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Other]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/the-joy-of-shameful-joy.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
In club land, the international breaks are something like an enforced naptime.  But, in anticipation of the Uruguay – Argentina match that might send the Argentines crashing out of the 2010 World Cup, I have been thinking a lot about Schadenfreude.  If Argentina did fail to qualify, I would have a good laugh, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://uefa.theoffside.com/files/2009/10/schadenfreude.jpg" alt="schadenfreude" width="357" height="480" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-193" /></p>
<p>In club land, the international breaks are something like an enforced naptime.  But, in anticipation of the Uruguay – Argentina match that might send the Argentines crashing out of the 2010 World Cup, I have been thinking a lot about Schadenfreude.  If Argentina did fail to qualify, I would have a good laugh, although, as I am not English or Brazilian, I’m not really sure why I would want to.  I suppose seeing a traditional, major power humbled is enough of a warm and fuzzy result for neutrals to get behind.  So without further ado, here are seven other occasions on which the misfortune of others provided me with some form of entertainment and happiness.  </p>
<p><strong>AC Milan 3 – Manchester United 0: 2006-07 Champions League Semi Final </strong></p>
<p>The 2006-07 Champions League campaign was the beginning of some Premier League halcyon days in the competition.  This turn of events was not handled altogether gracefully in many quarters.  The loudest triumphalism came after Roma imploded at Old Trafford.  The particular circumstances of the match were quickly forgotten for the sake of a ‘the Italians couldn’t handle our mighty warriors’ narrative.  When Manchester United were paired with AC Milan in the semi finals, there were some ill advised statements about ‘burying Italian football’ strewn about.  A narrow first leg victory for United only upped the ante.  Cue a torrential downpour at the San Siro, a masterclass from Kaka and Clarence Seedorf, and a big time self satisfied smirk for all of us continental loving, wine sipping weenies.<br />
<span id="more-192"></span></p>
<p><strong>Senegal 1 – France 0: 2002 World Cup Group Stage</strong></p>
<p>There’s no denying that the France team that won the 1998 World Cup and Euro 2000 was an incredible collection of talent.  At the time though, the sheer number of narrow escapes they had along the way never really sat right.  By the time the 2002 World Cup rolled around, I was pretty sick of hearing about how wonderful France was and how there was no reason they shouldn’t win another tournament and establish themselves among the immortals.   Their aimless stumbling around in the opening game against Senegal was a source of great mirth, made even more amusing when it became evident that they really weren&#8217;t going to get the goal back.  Given the turn that football has taken since the turn of the century, it seems petty and churlish to begrudge that France side their success now, but at the time, it sure did feel good.</p>
<p><strong>Germany 1 (6) – England 1 (5): 1996 European Championship Semi Final</strong></p>
<p>Euro 96 was my first experience with the culture of English national team support.  I was too young in 1990 to grasp a concept like that, Euro 92 only existed in print form, and they weren’t at the 1994 World Cup.  I was naïve enough to be utterly scandalized by their behavior.  Why would English fans act this way based on a single, thirty year old triumph, I asked.  When they eliminated Spain thanks to some host friendly officiating, matters got a little more personal.  When the anti-German tabloid frenzy kicked off, I could only conclude that a nation had gone mad. (Would they start up about re-colonizing us if they ever played the US in a competitive match again?)  The game was, of course, nerve wracking, but once order was restored with the German shoot out victory, I thought, in my childish wisdom, that maybe this would be an important lesson in level headedness for the future.  Well, like they said on the Simpsons, ‘that’s why you’re still kids, because you’re stupid.’  At least the world was spared any more Britpop about the subject.<br />
<strong></p>
<p></strong><strong>Manchester United 1 – Arsenal 0:  2004-05 Premier League </strong></p>
<p>Even fans with marginal to zero interest in the Premier League have their patience tried by the new breed of smug, aesthete Arsenal fans.  Naturally, the unbeaten run of ‘the invincibles’ was a dark time.  Despite the fact that they had a number of close shaves along the way and the fact that they had not and would not prove themselves in Europe, the arrogance increased with every passing addition to the streak.  The controversial 03-04 match against Manchester United at Old Trafford was, perhaps, the closest call for Arsenal.  Ruud Van Nistelrooy missed a late penalty that would have stopped the unbeaten run in its tracks.  After the miss, Van Nistelrooy was hounded off the field by a gang of Arsenal players, led by the maniacal Martin Keown, who accused the Dutchman of diving earlier in the game, which resulted in Patrick Viera’s dismissal.  It was only fitting that when Arsenal were finally silenced that it occurred at Old Trafford, from a controversial penalty decision, with the goal scored by Ruud Van Nistelrooy.  </p>
<p><strong>Espanyol 2 – Barcelona 2: 2006-07 La Liga </strong></p>
<p>Barcelona’s revival, led by Ronaldinho on the field and Frank Rijkaard from the bench was a natural counterpoint for the bloated failure of Real Madrid’s galaticos.  A problem arose when the accolades heaped on Barcelona became just as annoying as anything the galacticos were capable of dishing out.  By 2006-07 changes were afoot in Madrid.  Fabio Capello was appointed to lead a very pedestrian Madrid back to the title. Their determined and often ugly charge to the top of the league was more admirable than anything that we had seen from Madrid in years.  On the second to last day of the season, Madrid trailed Zaragoza and Barcelona led Espanyol; it seemed like Barcelona would escape after all.  Madrid and Espanyol grabbed late equalizers in their respective matches within seconds of each other, setting off delirium and sending the cosmic message, ‘that’s enough for now Barca.’ </p>
<p><strong>AS Monaco 3 – Real Madrid 1: 2003-04 Champions League Quarter Final</strong> </p>
<p>Ah, the simpler times of the David Beckham era galacticos, when Fiorentino Perez could promise with a straight face that this incarnation of Real Madrid would provide transcendental, psychotropic beauty that would unite all football fans in worship of Real Madrid.  That got unforgivably irritating in, about, three seconds.  Still, Perez pressed onwards, dismissing concerns about the defensive frailties of his new squad as cold, egghead killjoys.  For a large part of the season, Madrid threatened to run the table, so when they stumbled in quick succession against Real Zaragoza in the Copa Del Rey Final, and Monaco in the Champions league, there was notable relief.  Of course, what made the Monaco result even more fun was that the decisive goal was scored by Fernando Morientes, who was integral in taking Monaco to the final, and was deemed insufficiently marketable for Madrid.   </p>
<p><strong>Bayern Munich 1 – Hamburg SV 1: 2000-01 Bundesliga </strong></p>
<p>I’ll probably never be forgiven by some people for enjoying this one, but I never could stand Schalke  their need to be loved, and the sense that they deserve to win something for just being so historical and devoted.  Anyway, on the final day of the Bundesliga season, Schalke needed to beat Unterhacing, and Bayern couldn’t win against Hamburg.  That combination of results would give Schalke their first championship since 1958.  Schalke’s victory concluded while the Bayern-Hamburg match was deep into added time, deep enough that Schalke’s pitch was invaded, balloons were released, and tears of joy were shed.  Then Hamburg’s goalkeeper handled a back pass, resulting in an indirect freekick inside the 18 yard box.  Steffan Effenberg laid the ball off for Patrik Andersson to score with the last kick of the game.  Bayern take home yet another title.  Did I mention that this all unfolded on Schalke’s stadium monitors while they were in the middle of celebrating?  No wonder schadenfreude is a German word.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/the-joy-of-shameful-joy.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Group Stage: Match Day 2</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-2.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-2.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tournament News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-2.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[There was a little bit of everything on match day 2 in the group stage: redemption, surprises, and some consolidation of power already.  
In the first batch of games, Red Bull Salzburg scored another surprise victory.  Unlike their late smash and grab against Lazio, the caffeinated advertisements enjoyed a comfortable 2-0 victory against [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a little bit of everything on match day 2 in the group stage: redemption, surprises, and some consolidation of power already.  </p>
<p>In the first batch of games, Red Bull Salzburg scored another surprise victory.  Unlike their late smash and grab against Lazio, the caffeinated advertisements enjoyed a comfortable 2-0 victory against Villarreal, who continue a terrible start to their season.  For their part, Lazio took out their frustration over the first day result by beating Levski Sofia 4-0.   Now that Villarreal and Lazio are due to face off on the next match day, the Austrians have a chance to take control of the group, which if you don’t profit from Red Bull, is just terrible. </p>
<p>Club Brugge rescued a point against Toulouse in stoppage time.  The Belgians vastly improved on their performance against Shakhtar two weeks ago.  Last seasons UEFA Cup champions dominated Partizan Belgrade just as they did Club Brugge; Shaktar won 4-1.  If Brugge or Partizan have the slightest hope of getting out of this group, they’ll probably want all six points available when they play each other. </p>
<p>Steaua Bucharest still haven’t scored a goal in their group; their match with Twente ended goalless.  Fenerbahce rebounded from their defeat to Twente with a 1-0 over Sheriff.  </p>
<p>Memo to GolTV: the number of Argentines playing probably isn’t the best criteria for choosing a game to televise.  Benfica and their La Liga castoffs were wasteful with the chances they had against AEK Athens, who won 1-0.  In the group’s other game, Everton survived a bit of a scare against BATE, eventually winning 2-1.  </p>
<p>In the remaining early games, Werder Bremen, PSV, and Copenhagen beat Athletic Bilbao, Cluj, and Sparta Prague, respectively, and Austria Vienna drew with CD Nacional.</p>
<p>In the second, US televised game, Valencia beat Genoa in a rather entertaining affair.  Despite Genoa benefiting from a clear offside goal and a penalty, Valencia were impressive enough to win 3-2.  In addition to the usual fine performances from David Villa and David Silva, Ever Benega was excellent for Valencia as well.  Elsewhere in the group, Lille put in an impressive performance of their own; they hammered Slavia Prauge 5-1.</p>
<p>Hertha Berlin lost again.  Sadly this counts as an improvement, as they only lost 1-0.  Fortunately for the Berliners, Ventsplis and Heerenveen drew 0-0, which means the second spot behind Sporting, who are clearly the strongest team in the group, remains wide open.</p>
<p>Anderlecht’s late equalizer against Ajax kept them on top of their group, while Dinamo Zagreb moved into the second spot after dispatching Timisoara 3-0.</p>
<p>Roma rebounded from their abject performance against Basel with a 2-0 win over CSKA Sofia.  Basel could not keep their positive momentum going, as they suffered a lackluster, 1-0 defeat at Fulham, who currently top the group.  </p>
<p>The great Celtic revenge match against Rapid Vienna turned out to be a 1-1 letdown, though the look on some faces after Rapid went ahead almost immediately must have been good for a cheap laugh or two.  Hamburg’s 4-2 victory against Hapoel Tel Aviv means that Celtic, for now, sit on the bottom of this group.  </p>
<p>Finally, things remain pretty tight in Group F.  Galatasaray were held to a 1-1 draw by Sturm Graz, and Panathinaikos downed Dinamo Bucharest.  These results leave Galatasaray, Panathinaikos and Dinamo separated by a point, and Sturm at the bottom, but not completely hopeless yet.<span id="more-186"></span></p>
<p>Group A<br />
Anderlecht 1 &#8211; Ajax Amsterdam 1<br />
Timisosara 0 &#8211; <strong>Dinamo Zagreb 3 </strong></p>
<p>Group B<br />
<strong>Valencia 3</strong> &#8211; Genoa 2<br />
Slavia Prague 1 &#8211; <strong>Lille OSC 5 </strong></p>
<p>Group C<br />
Celtic 1 &#8211; Rapid Vienna 1<br />
<strong>Hamburg SV 4</strong> &#8211; Hapoel Tel Aviv 2 </p>
<p>Group D<br />
<strong>Sporting CP 1 </strong>- Hertha Berlin 0<br />
FK Ventsplis 0 &#8211; Heerenveen 0 </p>
<p>Group E<br />
<strong>Fulham 1</strong> &#8211; FC Basel 0<br />
<strong>AS Roma 2</strong> &#8211; CSKA Sofia 0</p>
<p>Group F<br />
Galatasaray 1 &#8211; Sturm Graz 1<br />
Dinamo Bucharest 0 &#8211; <strong>Panathinaikos 1 </strong></p>
<p>Group G<br />
<strong>Red Bull Salzburg 2</strong> &#8211; Villarreal 0<br />
Levski Sofia 0 &#8211; <strong>SS Lazio 4 </strong></p>
<p>Group H<br />
FC Twente 0 &#8211; Steaua Bucharest 0<br />
Sheriff 0 &#8211; <strong>Fenerbahce 1 </strong></p>
<p>Group I<br />
<strong>AEK Athens 1</strong> &#8211; Benfica 0<br />
BATE 1 &#8211; <strong>Everton 2 </strong></p>
<p>Group J<br />
<strong>Shakhtar Donetsk 4</strong> &#8211; Partizan Belgrade 1<br />
Toulouse 2 &#8211; Club Brugge 2 </p>
<p>Group K<br />
<strong>PSV Eindhoven 1</strong> &#8211; CFR Cluj 0<br />
<strong>FC Copenhagen 1</strong> &#8211; Sparta Prague 0 </p>
<p>Group L<br />
<strong>Werder Bremen 3</strong> &#8211; Athletic Bilbao 1<br />
Austria Vienna 1 &#8211; CD Nacional 1 </p>
<p>Group standings <a href="http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/standings/index.html">here</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/group-stage-match-day-2.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>A pre-match rant about Rapid Vienna &#8211; Celtic</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/uefa-cup-memories/a-pre-match-rant-about-rapid-vienna-celtic.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/uefa-cup-memories/a-pre-match-rant-about-rapid-vienna-celtic.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[UEFA Cup Memories]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/uefa-cup-memories/a-pre-match-rant-about-rapid-vienna-celtic.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[
Does it get more simultaneously pathetic and irritating than the whining we’ve had to put up with from Celtic for the past few weeks?  In case you’ve missed Celtic stop just short of accusing Rapid Vienna of war crimes, a recap of the situation can be found in today’s Guardian.  
 In fairness [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://uefa.theoffside.com/files/2009/10/458px-Dame_Europa_Page_30-229x300.png" alt="458px-Dame_Europa_Page_30" width="229" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-168" /></p>
<p>Does it get more simultaneously pathetic and irritating than the whining we’ve had to put up with from Celtic for the past few weeks?  In case you’ve missed Celtic stop just short of accusing Rapid Vienna of war crimes, a recap of the situation can be found in today’s <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/01/celtic-rapid-vienna-reunion">Guardian</a>.  </p>
<p> In fairness to Celtic’s current crop of players, the hysterics have come from fans and from former players, but, usually, embarrassing undertakings like this are done in the name of something or someone, bigger than the ranting individual, so fairly or unfairly, the whole club has its name attached on some level.  </p>
<p>As the Guardian article correctly points out, if Celtic didn’t lose the moral high ground the moment the first object was thrown at Celtic Park, they certainly said so long, farewell, good night, auf wiedersehen to any semblance of it when their supporters physically attacked Rapid players. </p>
<p>I certainly sympathize with obsession and pointless grudge holding, but when it moves from the realm of good humor to yelling about CIA satellites on a city street corner, enough is enough.  First of all, you aren’t the first or last team to lose in controversial circumstances.  Second of all it’s a nice, little historical connection to the present day, not a Shakespearean injustice.  </p>
<p>Leaving the specifics aside for a moment, I guess what bothers me the most is that, ultimately, this is just another instance of a British club being knocked out of Europe and immediately resorting to the ‘we were cheated by those dastardly foreigners’ narrative.  The misanthrope in me is really hoping that Rapid Vienna will be awarded a dubious penalty or borderline offside goal deep into stoppage time, right in the middle of <em>You’ll Never Walk Alone</em>.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/uefa-cup-memories/a-pre-match-rant-about-rapid-vienna-celtic.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Murder in Serbia</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europa-league/murder-in-serbia.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europa-league/murder-in-serbia.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Fan violence]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Other]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europa-league/murder-in-serbia.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Grim news from Belgrade this morning, where a Toulouse fan who was assaulted prior to the French club’s group stage match with Partizan Belgrade died in the hospital.  Unfortunately, in the world of Serbian football, this murder is another bullet point on a long list of violence that actually includes previous deaths.
I’m wondering if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grim news from Belgrade this morning, where a Toulouse fan who was <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/8729448">assaulted </a>prior to the French club’s group stage match with Partizan Belgrade died in the hospital.  Unfortunately, in the world of Serbian football, this murder is another bullet point on a long list of violence that actually includes previous deaths.</p>
<p>I’m wondering if we’ll actually see Partizan in serious trouble with UEFA (they’ve been expelled from the UEFA Cup before because of crowd trouble) because of this incident, or if it will be treated as yet another individual case that just coincidentally occurred around a football match.  Serbian police have already made arrests, and have, overall, taken a harder line on hooliganism in recent years, but I can’t help but think that focusing on individual perpetrators, after the fact, while rightly punishing the individual criminal, isn’t going to curb football violence.</p>
<p>In the context of these violent fan groups, the individual is ultimately of less importance than the group and the club itself.  Anything suffered while ‘on duty’ for the club is likely to be viewed as some sort of perverse honor.</p>
<p>Obviously, social problems in Serbia go far beyond football. Matters are, of course, complicated by the fact that actual wars have occurred there in recent history.  I’m far from an expert on the sociology of the situation, but I would imagine when so much international football hooliganism is seen as recreational in nature by the participants, that this notion would be amplified in a country that has been involved in some truly brutal fighting.</p>
<p>It seems ridiculous to talk about bans or point deductions at a time like this, but there’s no way on earth that the act of attending a football match could put someone in actual, mortal danger should be tolerated for a second.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europa-league/murder-in-serbia.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Crime committed, celebrities not involved.</title>
		<link>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/crime-committed-celebrities-not-involved.html</link>
		<comments>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/crime-committed-celebrities-not-involved.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Other]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tournament News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[europa league]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Champions League]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/crime-committed-celebrities-not-involved.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[In case you hadn’t already heard, UEFA is investigating a rather significant number of European qualifying round matches from recent seasons for evidence of match fixing.  There really isn’t a whole lot to say about match fixing that doesn’t invite a response of ‘duh, really?’.  That altering the results of sporting contests for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you hadn’t already heard, UEFA is investigating a rather significant number of European qualifying round matches from recent seasons for evidence of <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/25/uefa-match-fixing-champions-league">match fixing</a>.  There really isn’t a whole lot to say about match fixing that doesn’t invite a response of ‘duh, really?’.  That altering the results of sporting contests for profit is bad is a universally acknowledged notion.  What’s interesting here is the tone that the media coverage and UEFA officials have taken in the reports, which grants the identity of those not involved equal or greater importance than the clubs that are.</p>
<p>This interpretation of events does as much for reinforcing the ironclad, financially based caste system among the clubs of Europe as it does for the purposes of information.  By taking pains to make sure we know that the big brand names aren’t involved, it’s almost as if the competition is divided into the ‘real’ portion where the teams you know and love face off against each other, and the pointless, substandard portion featuring unknown minnows.   Casting the early qualifying rounds as a kind of obligatory, burdensome sideshow for the little guys is, on some level, helping to create the very atmosphere in which corruption seems justifiable on some level to the eventual participants.</p>
<p>Since match fixing is a serious breach of sporting morals and rules regardless of who commits it, the names should ultimately be of secondary importance.  Granted, there is an obvious difference in impact when names like Juventus, Marseilles, or Genoa are involved than, hypothetically, the champions Belarus, but the fact that match fixing is allegedly occurring in Europe’s biggest competitions should balance out the difference in name recognition.  </p>
<p>Hopefully the recent reorganizations of the qualifying process will remedy this atmosphere.  We probably remain a long way off from a return to the days of seeing the super rich clubs in danger of being knocked out by a relatively unknown Eastern European opponent, but the new format has certainly made reaching the group stages a plausible goal again, which should remove any modicum of an excuse for engaging in match fixing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://uefa.theoffside.com/europe/crime-committed-celebrities-not-involved.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
